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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jul 17, 2007 5:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: I need 1978 guidance

Lossless Legs has started their 1978 project, and I'm inclined to dl some shows, but I don't think I'm up to doing the whole year. Overall, I don't think I like 78 as much as 77 and 76, but all three 78 commercial releases I have are quite good (DP18, DP25(!), and Closing of Winterland).

Care to point me to the best 1978 shows? Are there particularly celebrated 78 shows, or are we just talking personal favorites?

Thanks in advance!

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jul 17, 2007 9:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

I'm off to bed, so I'll thank all of you good and generous people for your suggestions. Great list, strat! Judging only from setlists, it looks like we have similar tastes. And comparing contributions, I'm encouraged by the number of shows that have been moved and seconded.

All of that said, if anyone else cares to weigh in, I'd love to hear your opinions!

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Jul 18, 2007 3:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

one watch by night one watch by day - thats why the earth is being made round

01-22, disc 3 especially, terrapin > drums > too > close encounters > st. stephen > a & a is in my opinion one of the best pieces of music ever played. top 10 ever def

dp 18 - fantastic

egypt shows (all 3 of them 09-14,15,16), considering the circumstances, are a must have for any self respecting deadhead. the difference in sound being surely the result of enormous quantities of highest quality smoke they inhaled in the shadow of sphinx

10-21 & 22 - both superb shows

12-31 - grate show

so, despite the very disappointing studio album, 78 was a grate year. i even prefer it to 77, which sounds (now, not then) just too polished to this ears

peace

(~):-)




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Poster: BlueMtnMan Date: Jul 18, 2007 5:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

Most excellent suggestions from everyone. It's hard to go wrong with shows from April. If you don't mind mp3s, David Lemieux has released all but about 6 six songs from 5-05 at the Tapers Section over the past few weeks, plus the mind blowing Let It Grow from 5-14. A very strong show that has previously only been available as an Audience.

If you grab 4-12, highly recommended, check out the text notes (that is when GDLive comes back up). An excellent read as you listen to the show.

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Poster: cush212 Date: Jul 17, 2007 6:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

7/8/78, one of my all time favorites! Then the rest of Strats list...

:)

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Poster: prideofcucamonga Date: Jul 17, 2007 7:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

You might want to add 5.14.78 to the list. There's an aud here:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-05-14.sony.vernon.7639.sbeok.shnf

Let It Grow!!!

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Poster: Burnt Rich Date: Apr 7, 2008 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

October 17-21, 1978. Post Egypt "Welcome Home" run. Some sick material in this short run of show. One of my favorite genius moments in my listening experience is the backside of set 2 on 10/21/78....drums>Got My Mojo Workin'>Other One>Stella Blue......this is the best of all the times they "Mojoed", the harmonica prelude is the clincher.. and the Other One is a scary, screaming, teetering on the brink of madness versions for the ages into the softest of Stellas....take a listen...

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Poster: He Live's Date: Jul 17, 2007 8:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance SAY IOWA

did anyone mention april 18, 1978....?

scarlet > dancin > samson is just inspired....then they go into TERRAPIN?? and the AUD is really great. you are there....i gotta say, i am not jonesing for a sbd at all listening to this

http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-04-18.shure.vernon.12383.sbeok.shnf

january was pretty hot, i know people mentioned 1/22, try february 5 also. the scarlet>fires were at there GOOIEST in this time period...jerry would just get lost in his wahwah.....MASTER OF THE UNDERWATER TONE...he did this shit in 77/78 with just some pedals and his technique....i like some of the MIDI things he did later on, but this was it.

be careful with this FIRE, you forget CORNELL FAST.....ithaca? no, no you mean IOWA...... Uni Dome 2-05-78

http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-02-05.aud.set2.warner.19466.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Jul 17, 2007 5:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

Lou,

I posted this a while back. You need to start with this show.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-01-22.sbd.popi.4974.sbeok.shnf

Minglewood Blues, Dire Wolf, Cassidy, Peggy-O, El Paso, Tennessee Jed, Jack Straw, Row Jimmy, The Music Never Stopped Bertha-> Good Lovin', Ship of Fools, Samson & Delilah, Terrapin Station-> Drums-> The Other One-> Close Encounters-> Saint Stephen-> Not Fade Away-> Around & Around, E: U.S. Blues

Not a good vocal day for Jerry, but a great show -

Average Minglewood, Dire, and Cassidy. Tremendous Peggy-O (even considering the scratchy voice), average ElPaso, then the best Tennessee Jed ever played. Next? An effin Jack Straw right in the middle of the first effin set, AND IT'S ONE OF THE BEST EVER! A tremendous Row Jimmy follows, again, even taking into account Jerry's scratchy voice. They end the set with The Music. Now I hate to call any version of this song a best ever, cause Jerry lets loose on so many different occasions, but I would be amazed if there were more than five better out there.

Most circulating copies, including this one, switch to an AUD for the first four 2nd set songs. First three are decent, and the Samson is excellent. Back to the crisp board for Terrapin, and Jerry pulls off a very moving performance, one of my favorites.

Drums next, then a terrific The Other One, then a decent jam leading into one of the best intros to Saint Stephen ever. I prefer a '69 Steve to any late 70's or 80's versions, but this is a top five performance. A fantastic Not Fade Away next, followed by the best Around & Around ever played.

Encore is US Blues, but the guys are spent, and it's ok.



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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jul 17, 2007 6:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

01-22-1978 another classic
02-05-1978 (Dicks Picks)
04-11-1978
04-12-1978
04-15-1978 huge NFA
07-07-1978
07-08-1978 awesome
09-02-1978
09-16-1978 best egypt gig
10-17-1978 From Egypt With Love, classic second set
10-18-1978
10-21-1978 one of the all-timers
10-22-1978
11-20-1978 check out second set, hard to find first set
11-24-1978 crackin show
12-22-1978
12-28-1978 great sounding soundboard
12-31-1978 one of the ten best shows ever for a variety of reasons


This post was modified by stratocaster on 2007-07-18 01:10:15

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Poster: airgarcia416 Date: Jul 17, 2007 6:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

Here's one not to be missed!!!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-04-16.sbd.lai.292.sbeok.shnf --- Huntington, WV

Have always loved this Scarlet-Fire, but there is a helluva lot of meat left on that bone still. The Jack Straw and the Eyes are real hot. Iko coming out of drums is hot as hades. Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.

Another hot one is the Lexington shown on the 21st. Real fun show, played in front of a near empty house. It's in the top 20 of '78. Real fun set list after drums.

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Poster: DEETS Date: Jul 18, 2007 9:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

12/19/78 from Mississippi is a very underrated show. There is a real nice audience recording on the archive. This is my favorite 1978 show. Solid show, well played. Nice set list. Interesting Other One...it moves along like a slow moving summer thunderstorm. Bob Weir forgets when to come in on "Promised Land" and the band picks him up with an extended and heart pumping jam. A real winner!!


http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-12-19.aud-sony.wagner.19507.sbeok.flacf

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Jul 17, 2007 6:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

i'm waiting for this one to get seeded http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-06-04.sbd.cotsman.10530.sbeok.shnf a under rated show imho,check out the pick of jerry down below from the show.the other suggestion are right on to.

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Jul 17, 2007 6:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

For celebrated shows, I suppose one has to have at least one from Egypt. I haven't listened to them all yet so can't recommend which night.

I'm actually still making my way through this year myself, but I find these four shows already in my notes as favorites so far:


1978-04-12 Cameron Indoor Stadium, Duke Univ., Durham, NC
After technical problems on the first two cuts, this SBD has remarkable sound quality and performances, and is highly praised by reviewers as one of the best 78 shows.
Two SBDs survive:
<http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-04-12.sbd.ashley-bertha.14085.sbeok.shnf>
<http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-04-12.sbd.henry.11476.sbeok.shnf


1978-08-30 Red Rocks Ampitheatre, Denver, CO
I've heard the second set only, since the first doesn't have a good quality recording in any format, so far as I could tell. I also deleted one of two nearly identical 12-minute Drums. The sound quality is superb and performances exquisite. The first I Need A Miracle, first Stagger Lee, and first If I Had the World to Give (played only three times in all).
AUD http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-08-30.aud.wiley.11479.sbeok.shnf
SBD of 2d set: http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-08-30.set2-sbd.barbella.8038.sbeok.shnf


1978-10-22 Winterland
The performances are fierce and energetic, and the sound quality superb. The tunings, comments by Bill Graham ("only ones who do what they do"), and banter are all retained.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-10-22.sbd.kempa.299.sbeok.shnf


1978-12-30 Pauley Pavilion, UCLA
This is a very long show whose sound quality is generally excellent; performances among my favorite. Donna is absolutely lovely: one of my favorite Scarlet>Fires -- simply awe-inspiring.
AUD is at <http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-12-30.aud-schug.warner.19417.sbeok.shnf>
SBD is at
http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-12-30.sbd.miller.18092.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 17, 2007 8:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

As a 68 twit I don't often speak on behalf of later shows, but I was at this Winterland one (22) and loved it...for what that's worth.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jul 17, 2007 9:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

Looks like William Tell has stretched his bow till it won't stretch no furthermore... ;)

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jul 18, 2007 3:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

*-Oops...apologies to airgarcia, who DID list this show prior to my post. Point is, he and I are both right! ;-)

Since I haven't seen this one listed yet, DO NOT MISS IT:

4/16/78

http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-04-16.sbd.lai.292.sbeok.shnf

Outstanding Scarlet>Fire among the highlights as well as a kick ass Eyes of the World....closest to a '77 show (in '78) for precision, and a LOT of passionate hard jamming to boot.

Can't miss.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jul 17, 2007 7:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

are you suggesting that this might be the 10-29-1977 of 1978? ;P

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jul 18, 2007 2:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

Well played, sir!

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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Jul 17, 2007 8:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

1/22/78 and 4/12/78 (4/12 especially) are two of the most energy packed shows of the late 70s

I might take 4/12 over most 77 shows

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Poster: acetboy Date: Jul 17, 2007 12:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

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This post was modified by acetboy on 2008-05-30 01:26:50

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2007-07-17 19:15:24

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Poster: prideofcucamonga Date: Jul 17, 2007 8:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

I forgot about that one. Best Me and My Uncle->Big River, or at least the funniest.

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Poster: deadhead66 Date: Jul 18, 2007 2:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I need 1978 guidance

Dear Lou,

1978 was, and remains, one of my favorite years for Grateful Dead shows. I've heard them all. I have some of the shows from January and April, all of the shows from February, and every show from May through December (save the recordings from the Egypt debacle). You're welcome to anything I've got.

Though I love all the shows from '78, I prize these especially highly:

1/7/78 ("Dancin'" → "Samson")
1/10/78 ("Wharf Rat" → "Franklin's")
1/13/78 ("Dancin'" → "Drums" → "Wharf Rat")
1/30/78 ("Stella Blue" → "Franklin's")
2/3/78
2/4/78
2/5/78 (N.B.: Don't settle for the Dick's Picks. Track down the "U.S. Blues" encore if you can. The first set has never circulated, so get hold of it -- in any sound quality -- if ever you come across it.)
4/8/78 (for the "Scarlet" → "Fire")
4/10/78 ("Dancin'" → "Drums" → "Franklin's")
4/15/78
5/9/78 ("Franklin's" opener, "Dancin'" → "Drums" → "Not Fade Away")
5/11/78 (Dick's Picks is fine; I think this is Betty's half of that release, and Bear's is 5/10, but I may have this backwards; "Dancin'" → "Drums" → "Not Fade Away"; pharmaceutical mescaline sulfate show)
5/13/78
5/14/78 (Mother's Day, Providence)
5/16/78 ("Drums" → "Comes a Time")
5/17/78 ("Dancin'" → "Drums" → "Terrapin")
7/3/78
7/8/78 ("Wharf Rat" → "Franklin's")
8/30/78 (first "World To Give")
9/2/78
10/17/78 (for the "Space → "I Don't Teach Anymore/Hey Buddy, You're Under Arrest" Garcia/Weir crowd exchanges → second "World To Give")
11/13/78 (for the "Jack Straw" closer)
11/16/78
11/17/78b (Uptown Theatre; here's a link to my prior post about this show: http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=126180)
11/20/78 (final "World To Give"; go with Rob Bertrando's recording for a virtually uncut version of the second set)
11/21/78 (for the "Eyes")
11/23/78 ("Friend of the Devil," "Dancin'" → "Terrapin" → "Playin'" → "Drums" → "Ollin Arrageed jam" → "Shakedown" → "Playin'")
11/24/78 ("Friend of the Devil," "Estimated" → "Shakedown" → "Drums" → "Ollin Arrageed" → "Fire" → "Sugar Magnolia")
12/19/78
12/30/78 ("Scarlet" → "Fire," "Playin'" → "Shakedown" → "Drums" → "Ollin Arrageed" → "St. Stephen" → "Not Fade Away" → "Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad").

There is a great deal more I could say, but I'll end here.

Best,
deadhead66




This post was modified by deadhead66 on 2007-07-18 21:12:29